Lord of the Flies discussion

A few of the Year 10 group have been pitching in with comments on the post about Simon and the Pig’s head below. Please look at them if you haven’t already.

I’d love to see more people contributing on here, and on the SparkNotes board. I think that as I write only about four people have completed the SparkNotes task. Remember for Year 10 that is a piece of set work, not an optional extra. If you have a good reason for not wanting to sign up for a public message board, please let me know, and if I’m satisfied by your reason I will consider accepting a contribution on here. Anyone unable or unwilling to do that task will stay behind next Thursday so that you can use the computers in Room UL2 and I can be on hand to show you how to do it.

You will probably gain more in depth understanding of the text and of how to reach the higher level assessment criteria by forcing yourself to think about the questions and arguments put forward and trying to formulate a response with the evidence to support it than you would from any amount of traditional essay work or class teaching. The more you contribute here, the less we will need to do in class, and the more time we will therefore have for other aspects of the course.

Year 11’s: how about some contributions from you too? You have recently had to answer on Lord of the Flies in the mocks. That will probably have made you realise how much revision you have to do. What better way of doing it than by involving yourselves in these discussions now rather than forgetting about the novel until a few weeks (or days!) before the exam.

Remember, your answer on Lord of the Flies will be worth about 30% of your entire marks for GCSE English Literature. In other words it is by a long way the most significant single aspect of what we cover on this course in terms of your final GCSE results.

So come on: get thinking, and get posting.

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5 Responses to Lord of the Flies discussion

  1. Samson says:


    This is my response to the question we have been dicussing in the other message board on your site, which also has been the question posed by somebody commenting on sparknotes.

  2. David says:


    This is a new thread i have started on sparknotes abot the lord of the flies and the conch, enjoy!

  3. Emma-Louise says:


    “Calling Ralph ‘the fair boy’ connects him with the angel Gabriel, who uses a blasting trump to declare good news

    The conch is symbolic of politcal, governmental and societal rules and order

    Piggy’s glasses represent insight and knowledge. Piggy himself is the scientific, reasonable aspect of society.

    Simon is the Christ figure of the book, he’s untainted by society

    Their dirty clothing symbols their transformation from a society to a savage group, who are greedy and cruel.

    ‘Painted Faces’ are the boy’s masks- when the paint their faces they feel powerful and otherworldly

    The beast is the immoral, selfish, sinful inclination found in man.

    ‘The Lord of the Flies’ is a Hebrew reference to Satan”

    I thought it was pretty good. Does anyone else want to comment on them?

  4. I tried posting a comment and spent about 35 mins writing it but internet explorer crashed and I won’t do it again, so I will make a shorter one. When Simon is in the clearing hidden by the foliage jac and the others murder a sow, and the scene was described in vivid detail with Jack slitting the throat (with blood spraying all over him) the “tribe” of “others” attacking her, especially the merciless roger. They then mock her, playing with the blood before cutting her meat for her bones and carrying it back to their camp, before leaving the guts and organs behind and the head impaled in the ground on a stick as a tribute to the beast. Simon witnesses this but they don’t see him. I think that he has no idea what is going on, therefore he is horrified, frightened and shocked by what he sees {all the words have similar but different meanings}. We know for the novel that he is younger than a “bigun” but older than a “littlun”. This means he is the middle child on the island and from the novel I presume he is the only middle child. Middle children are known to feel left out and therefore are more self-absorbed (simon seems to be very self absorbed). They also feel more lonely and are more imaginary (simon keeps going to a clearing an just contemplating) and at one point on a particular journey crashes straight into a tree and “red stuff comes out of his head”. He wasn’t talking at the time and they are walking along the beach where overhead obstacles are very unlikely. People only typically crash into someting if they are deep in imagination and aren’t concentrating. I have spoke a lot about this because it is one of the few events where simon is described in detail.

    With him having a vivid imagination that is interrupted by death at the moment in the clearing the shock probably attacked his mind and he couldn’t cope, and he went nito a trance where he saw the image of the pigs head talking. Therefore it is not the supernatural making the head really talk and is not his direct imagination but a trance that he cannot escape from. I’ve had to rush the end [sorry] I’ve ran out of time.

  5. Emma-Louise says:

    Wow Luke. Thats a whole new perspective for me. Simon being the middle child and he is left out a lot, it’s true. When you say he feels more imaginary can you explain that a little more?
    I think I get it but I’d like to check what you actually mean first.

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